When people argue about health care, they are rarely arguing only about medicine.
In this conversation with David Blumenthal and James Morone, we explore why the Affordable Care Act became a cultural battleground, how COVID exposed deeper fractures in American society, and why public trust in science has become one of the defining questions of our time.
Rather than offering easy answers, this discussion asks what kind of country we want to be and whether facts, leadership, and shared responsibility can still matter in a divided America.










